[Benevolance]

Is Behror donning the armour, or donning it hastily. The former will take 2 minutes (20 rounds) with Talon's help; the latter will take 30 seconds (5 rounds) with Talon's help but give -1 AC and add a +1 armour check penalty.

Edit: And since Talon can sleep in his armour without penalty, I'm assuming that he was already wearing his chain shirt and doesn't have to spend 1 minute putting it on.

This post has been edited by Benevolance: 25 May 2007 - 11:24 AM

[OverdrivePrime]

Behror is donning hastily. +4 to AC > +0 to AC.

[Benevolance]

I guess I'll trust your math. This time.

[OverdrivePrime]

:batman: Excellent.

[Benevolance]

Exseo can choose to take an action while the flying duo is attacking the one Pandessan soldier and then descending to the ground.

[OverdrivePrime]

What's the distance of Behror, Siscero and Talon to the winged elves?

[Benevolance]

I assumed the catch up party was double moving at 40 feet per round, so you are 200 feet away from Exseo, and 240 feet away from the angels.

Of course, a round of good ol' fashioned running will close the gap more quickly.

[Fugu]

Staalllllll.......

[Benevolance]

Congratulations. Your successful diplomacy roll has bought you a round of inaction by the angry elven angels of death.

[Valrus]

So did we recover our seplls or did we get interupted during nap time?

[Benevolance]

It isn't yet morning, but you guys probably got enough rest to get your spell back. Because, well, you're going to need them.

[Kishi]

Dun-dun-DUN!

[Benevolance]

Another successful Diplomacy roll. :(

Behror is running, which means he can cover 80 feet per round. Unless Nyoibo or Valrus say otherwise, I'll assume that the casters are matching pace with the meatshield.

Therefore, distance to Exseo is now 120 feet and closing.

[Fugu]

Thank God Flynn gave his fighter diplomacy ranks.

[Kishi]

I'll pass that along.

[Benevolance]

Assuming that Behror and company are still running full tilt for Round one, they begin Round two 40 feet away from Exseo. I will do up a map and post it in the battle thread.

[Fugu]

What about natural healing?

[Benevolance]

???

[Fugu]

How much have we healed since the Render battle?????????????????????????????????//ohgodtellmeeeeeee

[Kishi]

According to the combat thread, you're at 49 hp.

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The woman sees his confusion, and explains, "I will kill you, by the method you requested."

You totally should have asked for old age!

[Benevolance]

Quit your yappin' and update your combat action, Kishi!

This post has been edited by Benevolance: 30 May 2007 - 07:16 PM

[Kishi]

I'm just trying to figure out a few attack options, pondering how the rules would work.

Okay, let me expand on the question, since the situation is possibly going to require some rules judgment on your part as well. Jon is somewhat concerned that she's got some magical protection that is going to keep him from damaging her with his weaponry. So, something he was considering was starting a grapple (assuming she's a spellcaster, he thinks he could win) and attempting to drown her in the scrying pool. Basically, I figure it would work that I would (over a couple of rounds) grapple, move her to the pool, and pin her there.

So, three questions: Using the grapple rules, would that be permitted? Would the pool be deep enough to drown her in? How long would it take to drown someone, i.e., is it something that could happen quickly enough to make it a viable combat option?

This post has been edited by Kishi: 30 May 2007 - 08:02 PM

[Fugu]

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According to the combat thread, you're at 49 hp.

I just wanted to make sure that was up to date.

[Benevolance]

Siscero usually taps everyone up at night before going to bed, but I don't think Valrus was on the board much when that happened, so I'll allow a retroactive tap up.

For simplicity, let's assume that outside of combat a healing wand restores 7 hit points per charge spent. That makes it easier for me to be lazy. In this case, Siscero spent 9 charges to get Exseo and Behror returned to health.

Kishi - yes, that is permissible by the grapple rules. The drowning rules suck for the person drowning, as it can be pretty frickin' lethal from what I remember.

This post has been edited by Benevolance: 31 May 2007 - 12:27 AM

[Kishi]

I looked it up, and, well... The drowning rules, from what I read on the SRD state:

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Any character can hold her breath for a number of rounds equal to twice her Constitution score. After this period of time, the character must make a DC 10 Constitution check every round in order to continue holding her breath. Each round, the DC increases by 1.

When the character finally fails her Constitution check, she begins to drown. In the first round, she falls unconscious (0 hp). In the following round, she drops to –1 hit points and is dying. In the third round, she drowns.

Which means it's going to take, on average, two minutes or more to drown someone, depending on their Con and how they roll on their checks. Which means 20+ grapple checks I'm going to have to win to maintain the pin. So, unless there's some other rules you're aware of, it seems pretty unlikely that the dice are going to keep coming up in my favor that many times in a row.

[Benevolance]

I just rolled a Knowledge (nature) check for Jon and he recognizes enough to know that he's fighting a Nymph, and that her skin is unnaturally tough like most fey creatures.

As for drowning: yeah, it would take a while.

I don't think the rules really take into account struggling. During the grapple I'd be assuming that you're holding her head underwater, banging it on the pedestal, giving her shots to the ribs, and pinching her nicely shaped bottom. A person is going to burn through the oxygen in their body faster in those circumstances than simply swimming. I'd house rule the length of time to hold breath would be equal to Con, not double. But you're still probably looking at having to hold her under water for a minute, at least.

[OverdrivePrime]

Regardless, you'd be a fool for passing up a chance to grapple with a nymph. You can do it, Kishi! I believe in you!



Hoooooooooly crap, Behror and Exseo are in for some serious trouble. :o

[Kishi]

Damn Jon for not having the foresight to have weapons to deal with the DR of anything he might come across... :shakefist:

On the other hand, knowing it's a nymph does mean that the other part of his plan might be useful. Action updated.

[Nyoibo]

Given I probably won't be around to update much, take it as a given that Talon will be slinging spells most of the time, I'll pop in when I can to post, but it may not be that much.

[OverdrivePrime]

You should hurry up and PrC to Archmage. Shape Spells would make those fireballs a lot more useful. ;)

[Kishi]

Question. From the Combat Thread:

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Jon does 0 damage to woman. [0 damage total].

Didn't I do 22 points of damage to her in the first attack? Even with her DR, some of that should have stuck around, I'd think.

[Benevolance]

I think you're thinking of the Satyr fight, when you rolled the crit. On a regular attack, your damage maxes out at about 19 or something, right?

This post has been edited by Benevolance: 02 June 2007 - 05:47 PM

[Kishi]

Yeah, I realized that when I went back and thought about it. I thought I'd done a decent amount to her in that first attack, because I remember being surprised she was still mobile, but, meh, whatever.

[Fugu]

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Jon's strike goes awry, cleaving through collar bone but sparing the woman a killing blow. She screams in shock and pain, twisting as if to stand in spite of the sword still lodged in her breast.

[Hit 27(22) for 17 damage]
[Initiatives: Jon 21; Woman 13]

Is that what Kishi's talking about? (Link)

[Kishi]

That would, indeed, be it. Thanks Fugu.

[Fugu]

Hey, the sooner you kill treebitch, the sooner you come save my ass.

[Kishi]

Oh, wait, crap- I've been stalling through this whole prison break thing so you guys could show up and bust me out! We're screwed!

[Benevolance]

Valrus..? Valrus..? Valrus..?

[Benevolance]

The thought occurs to me that at least three-fifths of the party is on vacation at the moment, and Valrus is lost at school or something. Maybe it's like that Summer School movie and Valrus is the guy locked in the bathroom.

[Kishi]

Okay, so maybe drowning her wouldn't have worked. I should have done a better job keeping "Potential Weapons" and "Potential Escape Routes" separate in my mind. Whatever.

[Benevolance]

I edited the post a couple times, so make sure you read the final version!

Edit: And it would have been fricking hilarious if you'd dragged a CR 7 creature along with you into the other fight. Everyone would have been yelling "LEEEEEEEEEEEROOOOOOOOOOY" at you.

This post has been edited by Benevolance: 25 June 2007 - 02:23 PM

[Kishi]

Come on, guys, think of the XP!

Edit to add: She bit me? What is she, seven? Actually, she might be. I'm not clear on how nymphs age.

Also, sorry I'm jumping into your honorable duel, Fugu. But Jon doesn't know otherwise, and that's not how he's been trained.

Pandessa Scouts: If you want a fair fight, deal with the infantry

This post has been edited by Kishi: 25 June 2007 - 02:45 PM

[Fugu]

Honorable duel? Ha! I just said that to stop them from ganging up on me while I was outnumbered. I never had any intention of sticking to the one-on-one rule once my allies showed up.

This post has been edited by Fugu: 26 June 2007 - 02:52 PM

[Benevolance]

So with Valrus pulling out, I will run Siscero for the current combat.

I'm reluctant to simply drop the character of Siscero, because that would leave you guys almost entirely without recourse to healing. I've offered the position to someone who had expressed interest in joining the campaign earlier. We'll see how that pans out and go from there.

[Benevolance]

I...fuck. I thought did the update since the O'Deepster had returned. But I did not. What was I thinking? I'll tell you what I was thinking! Blizzards! Everywhere! Chaos!

..okay, I'll get an update underway. Things will probably remain a little slow on this campaign for the foreseeable future. I'm not sure what Fugu's status is at the moment, but Nyoibo is unable to access the site and I haven't heard back about Valrus' replacement.

[Benevolance]

Alright ODP, you've created a connundrum! I don't have access to the book with your special ability on the sunder. The celestial has Magic Weapon cast on his sword - does your sunder ability apply the extra damage?

[OverdrivePrime]

As I read the rules, I only do the extra damage if the elf himself is a magic user (spells or spell-like abilities), or if the swords can cast spells (spell storing and the like).

[Benevolance]

He has spell-like abilities. But that will only apply the extra damage when you're attacking him, correct?

[OverdrivePrime]

As I read it, it should be while I'm attacking him or his stuff. As I read it, the ability works like a ranger's extra damage in that you know how to attack your foes better to increase your damage. Buuut, it's your game and the wording is unclear. (from WotC? Shocking! :o )

[Benevolance]

We will have a Siscero version 2.0 joining us shortly.

[OverdrivePrime]

Excellent. Now then, will you have pity on Siscero 2.0 and allow him a rebuild? Poor guy, goin' for mystic theurge or whatever. :unsure:

[Benevolance]

Valor provokes an AoO from Behror for movement through a threatened space. What is Behror's action?

[OverdrivePrime]

Axe swinging for flesh. Still power attacking at -3.

[OverdrivePrime]

Lance, is Valor flying too high for Behror to reasonably jump up and hit him? How far aware are the two at present?

[Benevolance]

Valor is 20' up in the air. Behror'd need...what, a 12' vertical?

Are you asking the distance between Behror and Valor? 15' horizontally, 20' vertically...I think that trigonometry declares the distance 25' as the thrown axe flies.

This post has been edited by Benevolance: 01 August 2007 - 02:20 PM

[OverdrivePrime]

Holy junk. That smarmy son of a...
Where are my iron bands of Billaro when I need them?


edit: yep. Asking distance between the two. Looks like an axe strike is right out.

This post has been edited by OverdrivePrime: 01 August 2007 - 02:20 PM

[Benevolance]

Just in case you missed my edit while you were typing...

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15' horizontally, 20' vertically...I think that trigonometry declares the distance 25' as the thrown axe flies.

[OverdrivePrime]

Okay, groovy. Behror is moving back toward the spell-slinging Pandessans.

[Nyoibo]

Ok, you're going to make me use up all my magic missiles to hit the guy aren't you, so not fair.

[OverdrivePrime]

Now's the time to use that Net of Doom scroll you've been keeping in reserve...

[Benevolance]

No, no. He really looks like he wants to come down and kill you. He just needed to stop bleeding first because he's all Stephen Covey goal-oriented and shit.

Besides, he still gets SR against magic missiles. :)

[Kishi]

Man, if only someone with some skill at archery had just joined the group and was getting tired of shooting at the bitch who keeps blocking his shots with her damned tower shield.

Also: Lance, your latest update could use some proof-reading.

This post has been edited by Kishi: 01 August 2007 - 04:19 PM

[OverdrivePrime]

Sorry Fugu! Exseo is a lot less fragile than the casters (and Behror, for that matter). Behror's hoping to take down Valor in time to keep Exseo from getting killed to death.

[Nyoibo]

I hate spell resistance. :angry:

[Benevolance]

You know what Behror is? He's a Big Damned Hero, that's what. For the sheer and utter awesome lunacy of your combat maneuver (successful or not) I award you a Hero Point, to be used in future, equal sense-deprived actions. :)

[OverdrivePrime]

A firefly reference and a hero point? O___O
I shall treasure this day. :notworthy:

[Kishi]

Dammit, archery apparently sucks. Or not. I'm slightly confused now, after reading the combat thread. Whichever.

Either way- Behror is quite obviously insane. But it will be insanely awesome if it works.

[Nyoibo]

Go Behror!

[Benevolance]

Fugu - with Hold Person you get to make a save every turn, so feel free to post what Exseo would do if/when he breaks free of the enchantment. I should have posted this tidbit sooner.

This post has been edited by Benevolance: 29 August 2007 - 10:21 AM

[Fugu]

Much as I'd love to join the Pandessan Air Force, I don't think I have much of a hope of reaching 20' up unless I can run up a boulder or something. Any boulders or uneven ground around? Or if the dude is tackled, I'll run up and stab him in the buttocks.

[Benevolance]

Talon is currently set to lightning bolt Valor, who is grappled to Behror. The lightning bolt will hit both parties. Does Talon still want to continue? Or zap Serenes instead, since she is free?

[Kishi]

So far, this round seems to be going our way.

[Benevolance]

Don't let that bother you. There is still hope yet. :)

[Kishi]

Don't squash my unstated pessimism!

This post has been edited by Kishi: 31 August 2007 - 01:12 PM

[Nyoibo]

I will zap the non-friend grappled enemy option.

[OverdrivePrime]

Holy smoke! I'm loving the look of those current rolls! :o

[Kishi]

*whistles nonchalantly*

[Benevolance]

Whoop. Natives are restless. Better finish that update!

[Kishi]

Like hell I can't move! I'm not a humanoid! Looks like she picked the wrong enemy to target.

[Benevolance]

You, Sir, are correct.

[Nyoibo]

Lance, I forgot my Warmages Edge, it should add an extra 5 damage to what I did, and just out of interest, how did I only do 5 damage on 6d6? :huh:

[Kishi]

I was pondering that too, but I figured most likely solution was some elemental resistance.

[Nyoibo]

Better not be, even so, it won't stop damage from my Warmage Edge.

[Fugu]

Kishi: thank you. Sugarshock is the best thing ever.

[Kishi]

Glad you like it. I find it strangely addicting.

[Benevolance]

Is it just the two comics so far?

[Kishi]

Yes, unfortunately.

[Benevolance]

Curse you, Whedon, and your far too small content.

[Kishi]

Amen. I just want to know when that man will realize he needs to stop doing whatever it is that he's doing now, and get back to entertaining us all the time.

[Benevolance]

Remember when I assumed Exseo and Behror could finish off a mostly dead celestial drow-elf Samurai 5? When I assume I make an ass out of u and me. This might take just a little bit longer...

This post has been edited by Benevolance: 20 September 2007 - 04:25 PM

[Kishi]

Agreed. Like when Jon assumed the fighter-types would be able to handle this, and he'd just be wandering over for back-up. <_<

Wait, did our spellcasters do anything that round?

This post has been edited by Kishi: 20 September 2007 - 04:36 PM

[Benevolance]

Siscero held, because Behror didn't want to kill and he doesn't have anything useful prepped for subdual. Talon has not updated his action. He can jump in, but he's even less non-lethal friendly than Siscero.

[Kishi]

True. Looking over Siscero's prepared spells, about the only thing that looks useful would be Ray of Enfeeblement.

[Benevolance]

It would be very amusing if he used that spell, rolled the random hit chance for ranged attacks vs combatants in a grapple and sapped Behror of 7 points Strength, wouldn't it? Some day in the future we'd all laugh and smoke our pipes and laugh some more and say, "Good ol' Siscero! What a joker he was! Pity about that business with the kyton."

This post has been edited by Benevolance: 20 September 2007 - 05:38 PM

[Kishi]

Oh, those halcyon days of our youth!

[Benevolance]

Verily!

[Siscero v2.0]

Lance, do you check your PM's? Cause you got one.

[Siscero v2.0]

Clarification: Valor was pinned, right, so now he broke the pin but is still grappled? Therefore he and Behror are 10' up in the air? Or was he never pinned and is now free of the grapple? And if so, is Valor 10' away from the nearest Pandessan?

[Benevolance]

They are on the ground now, having crashed to the earth when Behror did his pin.

[Siscero v2.0]

Benevolance, on Sep 21 2007, 01:53 PM, said:

They are on the ground now, having crashed to the earth when Behror did his pin.

OK. The map still says 10' in the air, thus my confusion. Plus under "Last Rolls" (Combat) it says Valor successfully broke the grapple, but if he was pinned, should that say "broke the pin".

Just want to make sure I understand what I'm reading, before I cast something that may hit Behror & company. :D