[Ishn]

As soon as Wrath of the Lich King, or whatever it's called, comes out, the game will jump to 80 levels with yet another new profession.

[Aoibheal]

Still playing Terrokar(horde) and DoomHammer(alliance) here. :) I'm in no rush to get to end game, I am still having fun trying out all the different classes, professions, and figuring out where to put my skill points.

[Saphi Yago]

Ishn, on Aug 16 2007, 06:17 AM, said:

As soon as Wrath of the Lich King, or whatever it's called, comes out, the game will jump to 80 levels with yet another new profession.

RAID OR GTFO!

[Iaiken]

Saphi Yago, on Aug 16 2007, 08:09 PM, said:

RAID OR GTFO!

Already am thanks...

Just killed Doomwalker...

Currently working on Magtheridon and Loot Reaver...

[Goober4473]

Level 60 was World of RaidCraft. Level 70, you have options. Normal PVP rewards kind of suck, but arena gear is sweet, and you can get a lot of really good stuff from instances, and professions. I'm working on crafting an epic 3-tem set (Frozen Netherweave) that comes fairly close to Teir 4 raid gear in power. It's requiring a fair amount of farming, but I can do it all on my own time. The biggest cost is that crafting 2 Shadowcloth has a 95 hour cooldown, during which I can do whatever else I want. I'm still level 66, but once I hit 70, this is gonna be sweet. I plan to do a lot of arena.

Hopefully level 80 will allow for even more options, and keep them balanced with eachother. PVP, arena, solo PvE, small group PvE, small group instances, and raiding.

This post has been edited by Goober4473: 18 August 2007 - 04:40 PM

[treehouse]

Aren't you worried about all of your lovingly-crafted purples becoming obsolete when WotLK comes out? I'm a weaponsmith and I totally had my eye on the Fireguard and its upgrades, but I don't know if I want to waste time farming the mats when I hit 70 if I'm just going to replace it with a green at 73.

Luckily, at the rate I level, I won't hit 70 before the expansion comes out (49 protection warrior right now).

I have heard some good things about high level play with the expansion - heroic 5-mans in particular appeal to me, but I'm worried I'd need raiding gear to stand a chance tanking these things.

By the way, I'm Windley on Kirin Tor (Alliance-side).

[Iaiken]

treehouse, on Aug 20 2007, 09:06 PM, said:

Aren't you worried about all of your lovingly-crafted purples becoming obsolete when WotLK comes out? I'm a weaponsmith and I totally had my eye on the Fireguard and its upgrades, but I don't know if I want to waste time farming the mats when I hit 70 if I'm just going to replace it with a green at 73.

Luckily, at the rate I level, I won't hit 70 before the expansion comes out (49 protection warrior right now).

I have heard some good things about high level play with the expansion - heroic 5-mans in particular appeal to me, but I'm worried I'd need raiding gear to stand a chance tanking these things.

By the way, I'm Windley on Kirin Tor (Alliance-side).

They really did nerf heroics a lot... it used to be that you needed a crack squad of 5 skilled players (1 tank, 1 heal, 3 dps that could crowd control) but those days are gone...

As for the replacement rate of items in TBC... I wouldn't really talk unless you know exactly what you are about... I had all tier 2 and a few tier 2.5 (AQ40) items and while my dps set (which I had neglected in favor of tanking) was the only set that I was really replacing pieces of before level 67. Even then I had an abundance of items that held me over to 70 before I could find an adequate upgrade... Yes, I replaced some of my tanking items with wonky greens before 67, but the cases were few and far between and those greens have since been heavily nerfed... Fact is, the greens at level 61 picked up nicely where the blues of level 60 left off. Tier 1 lasted till about level 64 blues, tier 2 to 67 blues and tier 70 parallelled most level 70 blues.

There are exceptions to be cited to this, but there are exceptions to everthing and sometimes certain tier items just plain sucked... but at the time there was nothing better.

Goob,

Frozen netherweave is actually better than Tier 4, and WAY easier to get... I really do suggest manufacturing a set as it will ramp your damage up by stupid amounts. While this means you won't need upgrades still TK/SSC if you ever get into raiding, it will make you an awesome supliment to your pvp/arena gear.

[Aoibheal]

I was just wondering if Iaiken or anyone else saw the commercials for Switchblade yet, where you can play WoW using your Xbox 360 controller. Wolfen(who you guys deleted btw :P ) & I are trying this out right now and it is actually pretty neat.

You download switchblade from xfire.com, you need to be registered and download the xfire client to get it, but that stuff is all free.

I'll be reporting on my experience with two boxing with it, here.

This post has been edited by Aoibheal: 03 November 2007 - 01:31 PM

[Aoibheal]

Oh man playing with switchblade is awesome.

[Saphi Yago]

So I started playing WoW again.

I'm horde on Gorgonnash, with ED and DS. Respectively, we are Johnnyhatred, Rogerblood, and Fidelcowstro.

[Fugu]

Quote

Fidelcowstro.

*snicker*

[Ishn]

My WoW account expires in 2 more days. I don't think I'll bother renewing it this time. I think I'm done with the game.

[jade_firefly]

I already have too many alts to actually play, or I'd come join you guys. I really need to have an account cleaning again, cause I never play well over half my toons. :P

[OverdrivePrime]

I thought you WarPimps would dig this:

Inside Thrall's Crib

[Aoibheal]

That was hilarious, I can't believe I hadn't seen it till now. Good find ODP.

[OverdrivePrime]

Here's another. 46% of you may not enjoy it quite so much:

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w219/mwellenstein/Win/WoWsObama.jpg

[Iaiken]

OverdrivePrime, on Nov 8 2008, 02:39 PM, said:

Here's another. 46% of you may not enjoy it quite so much:

ROFLMAO!!!

[xenomega]

I'm thinking about picking it up again. I've built myself a relatively kickass system, and considering my last computer technically wasn't supposed to be able to play WoW, I'm wondering how it will do on this one. Just as soon as the damn program downloads. In 24 hours or so.

[Iaiken]

xenomega, on Nov 14 2008, 08:20 PM, said:

I'm thinking about picking it up again. I've built myself a relatively kickass system, and considering my last computer technically wasn't supposed to be able to play WoW, I'm wondering how it will do on this one. Just as soon as the damn program downloads. In 24 hours or so.

Honestly, Northrend is awesome... Blizzard has outdone themselves in ways words cannot express...

The cut scene for the Wrathgate... just... wow... like... if you followed the story AT ALL, it will knock your balls off...

[xenomega]

Yeah, my highest level character ever is 46th level I think. I haven't played in months. I may just start out fresh, so no Wrath for awhile.

[sarabethv]

Normally I stay out of WOW stuff (run like a little rabbit when confronted) however, I just had to mention, and I'm sure all you guys already knew this, that I just discovered WOW porn.

[Aoibheal]

And how long have you had the internet now? :unsure:

[Ishn]

xenomega, on Nov 16 2008, 08:01 PM, said:

Yeah, my highest level character ever is 46th level I think. I haven't played in months. I may just start out fresh, so no Wrath for awhile.

I just got back into playing myself. I'm having fun playing my Dwarf Hunter.

[Aoibheal]

We're on the Ravencrest Server, both Horde and Alliance Side (more established on Alliance) if anyone is interested in playing together sometime lemme know :)

[elliott20]

I have question for all of you WoW players. How do you guys feel about Real Money Trade in these games?

[Aoibheal]

People that buy gold are worthless assholes that have no idea where that gold actually comes from. There's not much farming for gold anymore, its too time consuming. Its much easier to hack an established character, wipe them and their guilds/alts/etc, and just sell it for all the gold its worth.

That's right gold buyers, you're likely buying the remnants of your friend's hacked character.

Other then that, if you're paying money for stuff that is literally, worth nothing and does not even have a physical presence in which to bash your face off of after realizing your mistake, well...that's just dumb. Go buy a book and get some edumacation.

[elliott20]

hmm... okay, I do have my own thoughts on this, but I am curious about what everyone thinks about this. See, I've seen arguments from both sides of the fence, and would just like to see more opinions on that matter.

[EvilDespot]

I'm almost, but not quite, of two minds on the subject of paying real money to get fake money(I'm not gonna talk about where that money comes from except to say hacking accounts is bad and mean, mmkay?). Personally, I'd never do it. From an economics standpoint though, stuff has whatever value people are willing to pay for it and whatever people are willing to sell it for. If someone decides that getting x amount of gold (or rather the equivalent amount of armor, weapons, mounts, whatever they could buy with that gold) is worth y amount of dollars to them, and the amount of time it would take to get that gold themselves is worth y+n amount of dollars, then buying gold makes perfect sense. But then you get the rather odd situation of paying additional money, over and above that already spent on the game and subscription, to get the equipment they think they need to survive the areas that they consider to be "the game", instead of just, you know, playing the game that they're paying for to get that equipment. That's really just as much a comment on MMORPG design as on the players, though.

[elliott20]

the thing is though, there is another argument that says some people just don't WANT to spend the time to grind, and so the desire and the existence of a gold market speaks more so to the game design in how the grind part is just not appealing enough for people to want to play it themselves. The argument goes, if the game itself allows the accumulation of wealth to be an interesting experience, people will be more than happy to do it themselves.

[EvilDespot]

Exactly, which is pretty much what I meant by that last sentence, just taken a little further. Basically just modify the above post to read "time it takes to acquire that gold themselves is worth y+n where n is greater than the enjoyment received from playing that section of the game."I think that the fact that so many people, not all of whom actually buy gold, consider the endgame to be "the game" says something not very good about the way the game is designed. In fact, a MMORPG designed to make the acquiring of loot as fun, if not moreso, than what is done with that loot would have a double whammy in combating a gold market. Not only would people not focus as much on the end game and having massive amounts of gold to get the best equipment for that endgame, they would also be more likely to want to play the sections where you gain gold.

This post has been edited by EvilDespot: 05 December 2008 - 01:17 AM

[elliott20]

There is, of course, the other kind of RMT, where you buy more content that might not directly impact your ability to compete against other players. i.e. spending money to say, buy a plot of land (or rather, space on the server) so that you can build your own house or some such. in the case of these kind of upgrades, I see no problem with allow RMT as a means for players to liquidate and manage their assets. Hell, it could turn into a profitable endeavor if the company can work out a "per transaction cost" like on ebay. Also, I do believe that if a game company actually makes money buying an actual feature within the game, the whole gold mining would become far less rampant as there is now a legit means of buying gold.

[OverdrivePrime]

I feel that it's the same sort of thing with Second Life. Someone has figured out a way to trick humans and otherwise respectable businesses into spending actual money on a series of bits and bytes that represent virtual land. While I think that this is foolish on the part of people who sink that money in, they obviously get something or believe that they get something out of the deal to make it worthwhile. Who am I to argue with Adam Smith?

[elliott20]

exactly. Besides, it's all just entertainment costs. I mean, people who play WoW have to spend what, 12 bucks a month on the game to just play. Second Life? you could play for free for all you want... until you actually want to do some real damage. me? I think the model has it's merits, even if it preys upon this new strange behavior that is the internet.

[OverdrivePrime]

Nevermind that Second Life is a desolate wasteland these days. Or so my magazines tell me.

Hmmm... I wonder if it would make a decent medium to game over. I mean like good, honest, tabletop gaming - through a virtual basment or something.

This post has been edited by OverdrivePrime: 05 December 2008 - 11:25 AM

[Aoibheal]

15 a month for the subscription and then x amount for the base game and x amount for expansions. I already sink enough money into this pit, I couldn't entertain the idea of spending more for more virtual crap.

Besides, the people that buy their characters, gold, items, etc are the stupidest of players anyway and can be spotted from a mile away. When you buy a level 70+ character and don't know how to play it, or ask the most simplest of questions that any 70+ should be able to answer (like "WHERE DO I GET MEAT FOR MY PET?!" , yes, that actually happened...) then really you're just setting yourself up for "End Game" Torment, by having the people that actually worked to get where you are ridiculing you up and down or worse, getting made fun of by low level players like me :D

[Ishn]

Aoibheal, on Dec 4 2008, 12:29 PM, said:

People that buy gold are worthless assholes that have no idea where that gold actually comes from. There's not much farming for gold anymore, its too time consuming. Its much easier to hack an established character, wipe them and their guilds/alts/etc, and just sell it for all the gold its worth.

That's right gold buyers, you're likely buying the remnants of your friend's hacked character.

Other then that, if you're paying money for stuff that is literally, worth nothing and does not even have a physical presence in which to bash your face off of after realizing your mistake, well...that's just dumb. Go buy a book and get some edumacation.

We pay real money, every month, to play the game that is literally worth nothing and does not have a physical presence.

If someone wants to spend extra real money to buy something in the game (be it an item or gold or whatever), so that it is more fun for them, what's the problem? I think it's worth $12-15 a month, and they may think $20-30 isn't bad.

Now, the whole hacking thing is just wrong, but how are people to tell if it's legit or not? I've made 185 gold in a week with my character, while leveling from 1 to 21. That's insane, and not a single piece of it was given to me or stolen. If I wanted to sell 100 gold for IRL cash, and someone was willing to buy it... what's the problem?

[Aoibheal]

I pay real money every month for a subscription of a game that entertains me more cost efficiently then what most people spend on going out in a month. A subscription is a bit different then buying virtual items.

Its unlikely that you could consistently make 200~ gold from lvl 1-21 faster then hacking an established character could turn over double or triple that amount.

The overall problem I have with it is that what exactly is the point to buying shit in a game other then making the game completely dominated by those with more money then brains? Are people's epeens really so small that they need to pay not only for the subscription and expansion costs, but to have someone else play the game for you so you can waltz around town looking cool (as long as you don't talk that is...)?

It disrupts the little balances that there are in the game.

[elliott20]

well, don't forget, you're just talking about WoW here. In that particular game, there is a learning curve AND a grinding curve before you get to the "real" game, so to speak. People who are spending money are in essence trying to skip over the grinding curve. When money is spent in this fashion, it doesn't solve the learning curve issue at all and that's just a byproduct.

But if money is not spent on skipping over grinding curves, and is instead used to enhance gameplay in some fashion, who is to say that is wrong?

[Aoibheal]

If it weren't wrong Blizzard would allow it and be like NCsoft and have a company based program where you could buy gold/items/etc, as it stands though really it ruins the spirit of the game and makes it unbalanced because the opportunity is not there for all players.

We made it from level 1 to 55 with the recruit a friend program in just a few days of casual playing. We do have high level characters and I wouldn't say that the game starts at end game because that just doesn't make sense. It all depends on what you are playing the game for and if you're just playing it for the end game does that make it okay to ruin the game for the rest of us who are trying hard to get the items/gold/etc that we have by us getting hacked or having us have to group with retards that bought their characters and so wipe us all the time in dungeons?

This post has been edited by Aoibheal: 06 December 2008 - 11:43 AM

[Ishn]

elliott20, on Dec 6 2008, 01:32 AM, said:

well, don't forget, you're just talking about WoW here. In that particular game, there is a learning curve AND a grinding curve before you get to the "real" game, so to speak. People who are spending money are in essence trying to skip over the grinding curve. When money is spent in this fashion, it doesn't solve the learning curve issue at all and that's just a byproduct.

But if money is not spent on skipping over grinding curves, and is instead used to enhance gameplay in some fashion, who is to say that is wrong?

Time is money. I can spend a month or two getting to level 80, or I can spend $100 and buy one. Which is worth more to me, my time, or my money? I've spent 50ish hours playing my level 23. At my old pay rate, that's $1000. Now, I'm having fun doing it, but if I wasn't, $100 would be totally worth it.

[Iaiken]

Ishn, on Dec 6 2008, 08:22 PM, said:

Time is money. I can spend a month or two getting to level 80, or I can spend $100 and buy one. Which is worth more to me, my time, or my money? I've spent 50ish hours playing my level 23. At my old pay rate, that's $1000. Now, I'm having fun doing it, but if I wasn't, $100 would be totally worth it.

If this were true and your time really was worth that much... you wouldn't be playing WoW.

The phase "work to live" comes to mind opposed to "live to work".

I work so that I can do the following:

Eat good food and drink good wine
Wear nice clothes
My GF ;)
Practice kung fu
Swing dance
Play WoW/FO3
Etc...


But I'm a crazy ass socialist who believes that the "American Dream" exists solely to woo the poor into voting in the best interests of the rich.

[Kishi]

Really, you're purchasing a product that you then have to pay to use, so there's no winners in the whole scenario, in my mind.

[Ishn]

Kishi, on Dec 7 2008, 12:18 AM, said:

Really, you're purchasing a product that you then have to pay to use, so there's no winners in the whole scenario, in my mind.

Sounds like a car!

[Aoibheal]

Except this car comes with a manual that says specifically that you are not allowed to buy illegal gold, characters, items. Or essentially that you are not to upgrade this car without Blizzard specific products, lest ye pay the consequences.

[Ishn]

Aoibheal, on Dec 7 2008, 12:15 PM, said:

Except this car comes with a manual that says specifically that you are not allowed to buy illegal gold, characters, items. Or essentially that you are not to upgrade this car without Blizzard specific products, lest ye pay the consequences.

This coming from the girl who watches bootleg movies online :P

[Aoibheal]

Gave it up, actually a lot of things have changed. That and that point is pretty irrelevant :P

This post has been edited by Aoibheal: 07 December 2008 - 02:06 PM

[Kishi]

Ishn, on Dec 7 2008, 06:06 AM, said:

Sounds like a car!

Of course, this car is also one where you pay the same amount for gas and oil changes each month whether you drive it once a day or once a week. And each month you spend about 25% of what you spent on the car in the first place. And you can only use it because the manufacturer lets you- if you stop paying Honda, your Civic stops working. And there are dozens of other cars you could buy for the same amount as this one that will drive you to another grocery store for free. And when you get to the grocery store, you sometimes have to go through the dairy section several times before the gallon of milk you want shows up.

So, yeah, exactly like a car.

This post has been edited by Kishi: 07 December 2008 - 04:33 PM

[elliott20]

oh man, that's awesome.

[Ishn]

Kishi, on Dec 7 2008, 05:28 PM, said:

Of course, this car is also one where you pay the same amount for gas and oil changes each month whether you drive it once a day or once a week. And each month you spend about 25% of what you spent on the car in the first place. And you can only use it because the manufacturer lets you- if you stop paying Honda, your Civic stops working. And there are dozens of other cars you could buy for the same amount as this one that will drive you to another grocery store for free. And when you get to the grocery store, you sometimes have to go through the dairy section several times before the gallon of milk you want shows up.

So, yeah, exactly like a car.

It's not a perfect metaphor...

[Kishi]

Or even a good one.

[Ishn]

Aoibheal, on Dec 7 2008, 03:04 PM, said:

Gave it up, actually a lot of things have changed. That and that point is pretty irrelevant :P

The whole idea would probably bother me more if I were on a PvP server and had to deal with constantly getting defeated by the guy with the most money - something that also made me stop playing Magic.

However, as it stands, I am minimally affected, so it doesn't bother me at all.

[Aoibheal]

Yeah, you say that now until your characters and guild gets raped.

[Ishn]

Aoibheal, on Dec 8 2008, 02:09 PM, said:

Yeah, you say that now until your characters and guild gets raped.

At this particular point in time, I don't care if my guild gets raped. I don't get anything from them anyway. I would care if my character got raped, though, but I could get it all back. It's just a game. I had fun getting it all in the first place, so theoretically I'd have fun getting it all back.

[TLRIV]

Northrend is, admittedly, awesome. Wrathgate is badass. Icecrown is frozen-over Mordor.

It's clear that Blizzard learned a lot from TBC, and the lore work put into this expansion is fantastic.

[elliott20]

well, Aoib, if the RMT is just a mechanism that turns money investment into direct power, THEN I would have a problem with it. Having said that though, you said it yourself, someone who just buys a powerful character outright but doesn't know what he's doing is STILL going to suck with this character and get his ass raped. So, I don't really see how this guy could possibly be a threat to Ishn if they are the same level. And if the guy is of much higher level than Ishn, well, that's something else entirely.

[Ishn]

elliott20, on Dec 8 2008, 09:45 PM, said:

well, Aoib, if the RMT is just a mechanism that turns money investment into direct power, THEN I would have a problem with it. Having said that though, you said it yourself, someone who just buys a powerful character outright but doesn't know what he's doing is STILL going to suck with this character and get his ass raped. So, I don't really see how this guy could possibly be a threat to Ishn if they are the same level. And if the guy is of much higher level than Ishn, well, that's something else entirely.

I think she meant raped as a metaphor for having your account hacked and all of your, and your guild's, equipment and gold sold off/mailed to someone else.

[elliott20]

well, in that case, that's just outright cheating, which is not really the product of RMT more so than the product of some asshat who decides to just be a dick.

[Iaiken]

elliott20, on Dec 8 2008, 11:40 PM, said:

well, in that case, that's just outright cheating, which is not really the product of RMT more so than the product of some asshat who decides to just be a dick.

RMT has nothing to do with Gold farming or being a dick... It's an illicit business that is growing larger every day. Why? Because it is cheaper, easier and faster to hack accounts than to hire people to farm gold. While BLizzard has basically made it almost impossible for them to steal your actual account, this has simply given rise to smash and grab style hacking attacks.

They log in, they don't even bother to change the password, they mail your current gold off to other toons (often in smaller batches to avoid tipping off Blizzard). They then send off all mailable goods of value in your bags, bank and guild bank before selling off all your gear and mailing the remaining coin. Then they log out.

When notified, Blizzards policy is to lock your account and not enable it until you secure your e-mail and your pc and request that customer support re-enable your account. After this, you go through the lengthy restoration process and even then you may not get all your gear back and you certainly won't get your gold back.

One person on my server got hacked three times and after the last one Blizzard told them that they were on thier own from then on out. This is a tough stance, but an understandable one which prevents people from claiming bogus hacks in order to make gold for themselves/friends.

So yeah, supporting RMT through the purchase of gold is basically financing hackers that target wow players. The average wow account is worth more to a hacker than the average credit card number and with the wow population growing every day, hacking players become a multi-million dollar business.

[TLRIV]

WoW account hackers are glorified pieces of shit, and the people who buy gold from them aren't much better.

[Aoibheal]

Thank You! :hug: :wub:

[sarabethv]

My name is Sara and I'm addicted to WOW.

Thanks to Quint, I have stepped to the dark side and it is messing with my sleep time. :(

[Aoibheal]

Horde or Alliance Sara? :)

[xenomega]

I've been playing on Burning Blade with a long time e4x-girlfriend and her friends. I'm up to 62 blood elf warlock. Woo. Highest character I've ever had.

[sarabethv]

Aoibheal, on Dec 28 2008, 05:34 PM, said:

Horde or Alliance Sara? :)

Alliance

[Aoibheal]

Coolness :) Again, anyone wants to come join us on Ravencrest more then welcome. Slowly building up a nice collection of lvl 60s with the recruit a friend bonus.

[jade_firefly]

Howdy, my name's Jade, and I've been sucked back in. :P 55 Priest and 64 DK on Moon Guard. FOR THE HORDE!

[TLRIV]

jade_firefly, on Dec 29 2008, 03:22 AM, said:

Howdy, my name's Jade, and I've been sucked back in. :P 55 Priest and 64 DK on Moon Guard. FOR THE HORDE!

y helo thar fellow Moon Guardian

[sarabethv]

I got to admit I'm having a little trouble navigating, but its a personal problem because I'm horrible with directions, and those damned quest blurbs do NOT give really good detailed directions.

[Aoibheal]

Get this addon, it will help alot :)

[jade_firefly]

An Admin Named Slickback, on Dec 29 2008, 06:08 AM, said:

y helo thar fellow Moon Guardian

O noes, I are been caught!


Sara, teh mods are your friends. Quest mods and co-ordinate mods are, IMO, absolutely necessary. If you want to keep your hair / maintain the integrity of your desk and/or forehead.

[xenomega]

I love Quest Helper. Also, thottbot.com and wowwiki.com are invaluable tools.

For the Horde!

(lvl 63 blood elf warlock now with the epic mount dreadsteed. teh awesome)

[jade_firefly]

I like the LightHeaded and Cartographer combo. LH interfaces with Wowhead.com, so you get co-ords, comments, and tips from other players. Is handy stuffs!

[sarabethv]

Aoibheal, on Dec 29 2008, 10:01 PM, said:

Get this addon, it will help alot :)

Just downloaded that last night :)

[TLRIV]

QuestHelper has a bad habit of totally fuxing with the game and not letting you log in, for some reason. I and many others had this problem though it did work for me for a short while. A nice mod while it lasted.

I'm one of the "game starts at level cap" type people so I tend to try to blow through leveling as quickly as possible because I do not enjoy it. Admittedly, though, the DK has been fairly fun to level.

[Ishn]

I've had no problems yet with QuestHelper, except that sometimes it gets stupid with directions.

I've played like 150 hours over the past five weeks, and I'm only level 43. I enjoy farming and breaking the economy, but not to the point of stagnation, so I quest a bit, and just farm while I'm out questing.

The one problem I have with WoW is that too much of it requires group questing, and I don't have a huge support base for group quests/instances. My guild is mostly 65+, and the LFG function never finds me a group. I've tried to get a group for FOUR days for Uldaman, and the one time I had a group together, it fell apart because one person had to leave, then another person decided not to try with just three of us.

The Mods I'm using are:

QuestHelper
Atlas
Auctioneer
Dominos Bars
Gatherer
CargBags (kind of like OneBag, but it works for the 3.0 patch)
TitanPanel UI

[Aoibheal]

Bare minimum addon musts:
Bartender
Arkinventory
Outfitter
Carbonite (I like to throw in Liteheaded also, but I don't think it has been updated yet)
Auctioneer

I have a lot of other fancy and not necessary ones, but they make it that much more fun. We were hoping to start doing some of the higher up raids, but the two friends from rl that we were playing with got new jobs and such, so they aren't ever on anymore :( We can do pretty much everything from lower blackrock spire down with just the two of us though, after 80 should be even more stuff we can do without having to find a posse.

[Benevolance]

Quote

The one problem I have with WoW is that too much of it requires group questing

That is my major complaint with MMORPGS in general, all the way back to UO. Gaming becomes an EVENT. I found it very difficult to jump online in UO, play for a half hour and do anything that made my monthly subscription fee feel like a worthwhile expense. I imagine it would be much the same with WoW. Not for the casual gamer.

[OverdrivePrime]

That's exactly my complaint. I don't want another job as a party planner or some goddamn guild member, trying to set up meets and other such bullshit. I just want to jump into a fantasy environment, explore and have a good time. That's why games like Oblivion make me salivate and MMORPGs do not.

[Ishn]

You can play WoW without worrying about grouping. You can log in for 30 minutes, do a quest or two, and log off. Some quests are mindless gather quests, but there are many chain quests that give you some story. However, most of the dungeons will require you to either be a few levels higher than the dungeon to solo, or require you to find a group.

You can play as the casual gamer if you take that 30 minutes a day and do it for 3 1/2 hours one day a week, but if you want to try to fit it into an otherwise busy schedule while you're waiting for dinner to cook or something, you're right, it's not the game for you.

[sarabethv]

I find that my quests are getting messed up.

[jade_firefly]

I've never been able to complain that WoW requires me to group too much. I played EQ.

The problem isn't exactly finding a group. It's finding a group for what's now considered "old content". It's a pain in the ASS to find groups for dungeons nobody wants to run anymore, but you might want the gear from, or need for a class quest. :/ Or getting in one of those groups if you're not one of the commonly-accepted OP classes.


Try getting a DPS slot as a Shadowpriest. It blows.

[Benevolance]

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Try getting a DPS slot as a Shadowpriest. It blows.

That sounds vaguely sexual.

[TLRIV]

jade_firefly, on Dec 30 2008, 05:35 PM, said:

O noes, I are been caught!


Sara, teh mods are your friends. Quest mods and co-ordinate mods are, IMO, absolutely necessary. If you want to keep your hair / maintain the integrity of your desk and/or forehead.

Jade I demand to know who you are on MG so that I can embarrass you in front of your e-friends.


If you need me I'll be the warlock walking around in full T7.5 and looking like a badass. Unf.

*strut*

[Ishn]

An Admin Named Slickback, on Jan 23 2009, 04:37 PM, said:

Jade I demand to know who you are on MG so that I can embarrass you in front of your e-friends.


If you need me I'll be the warlock walking around in full T7.5 and looking like a badass. Unf.

*strut*

I'm... level 51, and I've been wearing the same equipment for 10 or so levels now because I can't find any drops or AH buys (at reasonable prices) that are better.

[sarabethv]

Ishn, on Jan 24 2009, 01:17 AM, said:

I'm... level 51,

:mellow: and I was thrilled that I got up to level 13 last night.

[Benevolance]

Quit now. Quit while you still have your soul.

[TLRIV]

You lose your soul at level 10, unfortunately.

[Aoibheal]

Dignity gets taken shortly there after.

[jade_firefly]

An Admin Named Slickback, on Jan 23 2009, 01:37 PM, said:

Jade I demand to know who you are on MG so that I can embarrass you in front of your e-friends.


If you need me I'll be the warlock walking around in full T7.5 and looking like a badass. Unf.

*strut*

If you keep an unholy enough schedule -- I'm nocturnal, badly -- you can find me as Jiralinde, or Enaeru, most of the time. I've a few lowbie alts, but they don't count.

Ishn, on Jan 23 2009, 04:17 PM, said:

I'm... level 51, and I've been wearing the same equipment for 10 or so levels now because I can't find any drops or AH buys (at reasonable prices) that are better.

Pfft. You work the AH, you know better than to buy gear there unless you find retards (like me) selling at stupidly-low costs just to make some cash.

[sarabethv]

My highest character is still only level 14 :( I didn't have anyone to play with (all my buddies were too much higher *sniff*) Plus, I haven't been on in like 2 months due to time constraints.

Anyone wanna start with new characters and play wid me?

[TLRIV]

Roll on Moon Guard and join my super awesome guild of like 3 people.

[sarabethv]

Are you alliance on Moon Guard? I think I may be horde on that one. I can make either though. I actually plan to be on tonight if I can :)

[TLRIV]

Always Horde.

[sarabethv]

I have a blood elf on that one :) I think level 3 right now :)

[TLRIV]

WHAT IS YOUR NAME!!!!?????%%%%%^^^^&&&&$$$$$

[Aoibheal]

I have recently started playing again, you can catch me on Tanaris horde side.

[sarabethv]

Adminbot, on 08 August 2009 - 08:24 PM, said:

WHAT IS YOUR NAME!!!!?????%%%%%^^^^&&&&$$$$$

woops :blush: Bamai - a blood elf Paladin

[Ishn]

I've been playing again over the past month. Up to level 78 right now. Should easily hit 80 before school starts, then I don't know how much time I'll have.

[Ishn]

Is anyone still playing WoW? I play for now. I've got an 80 Dwarf Hunter and a 50ish Draenai Pally on Shadow Council.

[jade_firefly]

>_>

<_<


I, uh... I re-upped. This week. Moon Guard.